You need to look deeper.” So let’s just take that at face value. And then another troubling thing happens, Nick hits Sam for trashing their opportunity there at the hotel. The characters and story is subtle but effective, it's not for everyone but if you stick with it you can find it to be effective. And Sam has this predisposition to perceive this kind of thing. Spoilers coming on your left. Decide that it doesn’t exist. Eventually, the head of the camp talks to the police, and they put two and two together and realize he is the missing boy that the authorities have been looking for that has been with Nick in the woods. It feels half the reviewers did not even watch this movie. From Sams point of view being in love with Nick perhaps he made the relationship more sexual than it was and in reality Nick was just caring for him. report. Definitely and 100% about Alex King and Rick Chavis. James Freedson-Jackson makes evil manipulation look easy. -The Mug That ending being short and vague isn't a condemnation, it's a blessing in disguise. Any ladt things we see are created as a result of dying. It is a sign of the 'Great . Awards Besides, Sam is leading everything, he’s lying a lot, he makes up his own reality. He setup this utopian idea in Sam’s head of the cabin and the woods. This movie is about child abduction, pedophilia, and sex trafficking. Nick says it to Sam first. The trauma of physical abuse predisposed to Sam to a psycho sexualization of the father figure. Rarely surprised by a comment. I think that father issues lead him to be confused in his adolescence about his own sexuality. And it was Robert’s beatings that drove Sam towards Nick and into the sexual abuse that would come from that. -1- MATRIX: “there is no spoon” -> “there is no cup” I’m happy to see I was not the only one who couldn’t figure out exactly what was happening. However the way Sam talks about “using her hole” and “would you ever do it?” what’s that about? Sam just said that because he was jealous and by provoking suspicion knew it would make Nick and him have to move away from the girl. One day, his father lets him out and the “broken” Sam snaps, kills the old man, and burns down the house. Sam had a hard time explaining any sexual abuse, and there were no signs of sexual abuse. Decide that it would decide our next steps or our outcomes. Sam (kid), Robert (dad), Nick (neighbor). So ghastly. Both segments present a mystery, about what happened and what's about to happen and all of this seems intriguing so far. Cave = hell/condemnation. Nothing seems to fit… or work. There is much to dread in The Strange Ones, but its slow pace means that it won't appeal to everyone. And Nick is shot in the arm. Because this is basically the holy trinity of this movie. The fourth episode of What If…? Follow Welkin One Podcast and others on SoundCloud. Then Sam sees the kitten, and recognizes Nick so he follows him into the cave, into the black hole. Spider-Man: No Way Home is the talk of the town right now, but Marvel has a . I might recommend a second viewing within the context I have suggested. It does however, show Nick being shot in the arm in the woods. INDEED!! AMA! Liked it? Agreed completely; thanks for your great elaboration which underlines my thoughts in the comment from March 28th – no more far-fetched speculation, that is what happened in the film! So, Sam as a troubled youth himself, ended up back at that camp. Very plausible. The duo that wrote, directed and edited the film talked about researching true crime (kidnapping) stories. Murdering his own father? -After that everything is pretty straightforward, Sam gets away with murder pinning everything on Nick once he learns he’s dead. Nick is Sam. One day, the dream changes, and she shows him a memory.Apps I used:Gacha ClubIbisPaint xKineM. Like thought shaping reality. I don’t remember my time in the cave. The Young and the Restless (Y&R) spoilers tease that Phyllis Summers (Michelle Stafford) could lose Nick Newman (Joshua Morrow) by reigniting some Jack Abbott (Peter Bergman) passion. Law of attraction and stuff like that. Sam stops the car, Sam runaway, Sam decides not to give real names (Nick does, and Sam calls him stupid…) Found inside – Page 37Dane knew how to find a strange city's vampire population. ... One of the old ones explained that what should have been the largest number, those turned in the intervening centuries, had mostly moved on to larger urban centers, ... Named a top beach read of summer by Oprah Daily, Good Housekeeping, The Wall Street Journal, and more “Nail-biting wallop of a debut . . . a thoughtful, unexpectedly optimistic tale.” —The New York Times “If you enjoyed The Searcher ... 0. That’s what watching the mega-weird murder mystery drama “The Strange Ones” conspired to do to me. I'm not exactly sure whether half of this movie was a dream sequence, or even whether it was supposed to be a sci-fi film or not. The camp, as I saw it, was a place for troubled youth; hard work used to discipline their character and counseling. Oddly enough the farmer is working on a farm with kids and quotes nick eventhough he had never met him? You’re welcome everyone! Ok? When a neighbor, who was a friend of their fathers, began watching over them while their father was away and began showering them with attention and gifts and treats they never got in any other case, the boys quickly fell under his spell. My thinking is that he eventually returns to the camp where he continues dealing with his issues. Powerfully expressed. At the end, Sam is now a little older and enters the cave exactly as Nick described. Just some gross deranged story. I think I might watch it again someday. I don't like movies that are all over the place. (Maybe a lot of time??) Yep. 3. These memories are only as real as you want them to be. Greetings again from the darkness. Just some thoughts. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading The Strange Journey of Alice Pendelbury. -Nick did not sexually abuse Sam, as the test shows, no penetration, (although of course there’s more than one way to have sex). Guess it’s however you see it, “The Strange Ones”: Too Enigmatic for it’s own Good. However Nick’s behavior during the present timeline shows that he was actively repressing his feelings for Sam and not acting on them. The coffee cup bugged the heck out of me because it happened once early on setting a possible false tone about this movie… or maybe not false? No theories needed. And at the end, crossing the road (I expected credits to roll), then the camp director asking about his arm… what the heck? A Cautionary Story Based On Actual Events, Interesting, challenging but not satisfying, The Strange Ones: Well it's got the strange part down. But this time is going to be different. He’s a construct of a perfect love interest for Sam’s tortured psyche. August 24, 2021 7:15 pm. | After things don’t work out and it’s not like he imagined and hoped, Sam commits suicide and the whole wayward camp thing is his conscious/imagination and the.end scene with the cave symbolizes Sam joining Nick in the afterlife. Sure it’s a rough subject but I think it does a good job getting inside the mind of an abused child. The hero's whole deal is in part exploring the limits of reality, and that means his stories have the potential . It’s clear that Sam was manipulated by Nick, but I believe that Sam did feel love for Nick. Maybe the trailer will convince you one way or the other to watch it or not. Loved it! But my take on it is that Sam/ Jeremiah is actually the “ bad guy” in the movie. best. Sam is physically abused by his father. All your theories are so intriguing.. The bad Strange wins in the end, and reality collapses. When Bold and the Beautiful fans were first promised that the parents of John Finnegan would come to the show, they hinted at a shocker.. A few months back, the B&B spoilers indicated that Finn's biological mother is well-known on the soap. The Strange Ones is a maddening, yet exceptionally-directed debut feature from acclaimed short filmmaking duo Lauren Wolkstein and Christopher Radcliff, adapted from their 2011 short the film of the same name.Opening with a series of images, The Strange Ones never gives away the story, allowing us to wonder with two guys whom seem to be brothers, Nick (Alex Pettyfer), the protective older one . The Strange Ones: What in the blue hell did I just watch? The movie was vague in many aspects (but that was the point anyway) but in my opinion not to the extent that I thought Sam had a shattered psyche and everything I saw on screen for 90 minutes was not what it had appeared to be. The movie begins with an unsettling scene and immediately you know this is an abused kid. Obvious to “us guys” is certainly other (but not-easily-verbalized) layer within this masterpiece! They have based the movie on the story of Derek and Alex King who came under the spell of a neighboring pedophile who recognized their thirst for attention and desire for a male role model's attention. Now, while Sam is staying with Nick, Sam divulges that his father beats him. The old man at the camp told Sam it was all in his head. A lot of the plot seems to share many of the same details as this case: So what if, at a high level, the timeline wasn’t like I posited above, but rather, more like this: Amanda? However, after her tragic death, Strange is likely to fall prey to the temptations of dark magic. Sam lives with his father, Robert. Despite the beatings, it was being separated from Nick that pushed him over the edge. Because we cannot obviously just turn off the horrors of our past. And no, you can’t rewatch it and see that it’s an “illusion”. Let's mull over how things have played out so far and consider where they might be headed next. Kinda like, “See kid? Will Tessa become another hostage who joins captive Mariah? Sam is both gay and insane. Strange Adventures #1 Discussion/Spoilers . She even asked Sam why he’d tell such on his “brother”, so she knew something was up. Maybe Nick just saw Sam was being left alone and made his moves without Robert even knowing; or suspecting anything more than friendship. He was empathic and sensitive to the needs of a child who had just been through an extraordinary ordeal. A black hole attracts everything in its orbit, and it was calling Sam all this time. Found inside – Page 105To think in absolutes was to cloud one's judgment. “So then,” he said quietly. “Your suspicion was aroused because he did not treat you in the manner practiced by white men?” “I thought it strange, master. You told me his plan was to ... Everyone is missing three points that Nick was sexually abusing Sam. Nick and Sam are allowed to stay indefinitely by Kelly, but Sam sabotages them by telling Kelly that Nick is horrible, and that he might rape her… that he actually is gay. Found inside – Page 367For to inhabit one's house in security once more , this is a boon we have been long praying for ; but nevertheless the fact that there is a strange man ... I may have to re-watch it a couple of times to bend my mind around what is happening in the story. This film is that unfolding. The entire events of the film are his jumbled real and imagined experiences just before his death. each one believing he was the real Harry Mudd. But instead of me telling you what happened. If you haven't played it so far, but you're plannig to d. Point one was during the examination, the doctor clearly states that it is hard to tell with boys. And it is here that we understand the narrative that the authorities believe, and the story that the film makers want us to believe. Or was it to have Sam for himself, to use or sell sexually? The movie is deep but not that deep and Sam and Nick are definitely 2 people. Back to the farm. Bold and the Beautiful spoilers say Steffy Forrester points John Finnegan to the guest house with an unsigned marriage certificate but Finn. Get ready, Bachelor Nation, because The Bachelorette 2021 spoilers for Katie's winner are wild. I took it for what it was. And we have to be OK knowing that we can’t know really anything from the perspective of Sam. Nick made no advances and told Sam once to put his shirt on and he masturbated in the shower, also the physical examiner stated their was no penetration. Think about this in the real world. Which, breaks my brain to think about.”. Or simply evolves because of the victims dependence on their captor…known as Stockholm Syndrome. Why does the camp leader mention his arm. By this point we can assume Nick is aware of Sam’s feelings for him, if he ever confronted him about he must have turned him down, but even if they haven’t talked about it, he’s keeping him at bay (he tells him to put his clothes on). Everything we see in the film is in Sam’s head. Now, cats can be a reference to Schrodinger’s cat and parallel universes, but the way Sam talks about cat n. Two suggests something different. "The Strange Ones" is an assured movie that makes a number of big, bold choices with confidence (such as the card-shuffling editing, also by the directors, and the decision to break the story into neatly delineated halves that could be titled "The Incident" and "The Aftermath"). The acting by Alex Pettyfer was mysterious and nerve-wracking. We knew some big stuff was on the way — the Season 2 renewal wasn't super . Also Nick was masturbating in the shower while Sam was waiting in the other room, something he probably wouldn’t have been doing if the two were sexual. He grew up abused and no one in the neighborhood helped him. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You control what is and isn’t real in your head. Let's do this! One source described it as "the loudest and angriest" they'd ever seen McMahon on a show day. The trailer offered assurances that A) Spider-Man: No Way Home will open only in theaters this Christmas and B) audiences won't have to watch the Disney+ shows to understand it. And nick both, could have been the farmers alter egos in this scenario. Sam/Jeremiah killed his father, as we’re Again, did I mention that I am definitely NOT recommending this movie? His presence was so strong in this film, I would really love to see him make more movies like this. Great acting from both actors and an absolute mind-bending journey. His mind tries one last time to create some sense of past normalcy, the cat. I also have the feeling he only makes up the inappropriate parts of their relationship to give a more believable reason for Nick to have done it. All (No spoilers -- this is intended to be vague because you really want to watch this one and get your perspective from it). Right? So here’s my take on the events of the movie and probably the most uplifting reading if the finale you will find out there. Found inside – Page 46cog in a long series of change that saw one people flourish even as another older people vanished into obscurity and extinction. Just as the Pale Ones, The Spoilers, arrived from across the seas and in their own time found their way to ... He didn’t mean things like his dad being murdered, or the house fire, or even Nick being killed. But I’m not sure whether he’s aware of his feelings or not, (more on that later), but either way, being the sociopath that he is, he ultimately failed him. Remember Nick mentions he went into the cave and never came out again. So I jumped online to see what it was actually about when I came across this page…and with a combination of your 3 scenarios and allowing the film to run onin on background, I think I’ve come to the conclusion that the characters are one and the same…unfortunately this movie fails in its attempt to illicit a thought provoking story of nature vs nurture….IMO there was alot of smoke and mirrors in the build up to the last 10 mins. But he sees himself as a young boy in this film. And he follows the cat, which shouldn’t be there, to the cave where Nick became a new person. Yes the social worker says so but maybe she is deluding Sam so he won’t try contact Nick again. And who are these random neighbors that Sam stayed with if they weren’t Nick? 2,160 reviews. Nick may have been Sam’s neighbor, but he also abducted him. While I am not dropping this movie in my recommendations pile, I did enjoy portions of it. Did I get what that would look like right? SPOILER WARNING: The following article contains major spoilers for the latest episode of What If. I just finished the movie and turned it off half way thru…to me , it was way too convaluted and incoherent. But soon the movie looses it's course as it fails to hold the momentum. And he has to make a choice: repent/forgive himself/and choose a path of light/speak/open up/admit/take responsibility with the camp leader and release himself from his nightmares/be Jeremiah (biblical names being used here at the camp-possibly an Eden reference) OR remain the tortured Sam/killed his father and is tormented and now left alone that he’s lost Nick and eventually chooses to follow the black cat and go into the pit — the literal black cave. The magic of the Marvel Universe has been scattered, but that doesn't mean Stephen Strange isn't still in business as Sorcerer Supreme. Or maybe his neighbor/brother was saving him from his fathers abuse. If sexual abuse was happening Nick wouldn’t have been so guarded about everything even with Sam. So Sam and a Child Protective Services woman talk. approved list definitely would be the movie Midnight Special. Alex was even so clever as to alter is grammer in writing to make himself appear to be even more of a victim. But it lead to an interesting discussion of some really fantastic philosophical concepts anyway. The Young and the Restless (Y&R) spoilers for Thursday, July 1, tease that Ben "Stitch" Rayburn (Sean Carrigan) will have a second surprise for Abby Newman-Abbott-Chancellor (Melissa Ordway) while Sally Spectra (Courtney Hope) delivers an invite to Jack Abbott (Peter Bergman). hide. But again… the cave. Sam kills his father because it is he who doesn’t want to leave Nick. Sam's home has been burnt to the ground, and, inside, the body of his father has been found, not a victim of the fire, but of being bludgeoned to death. This is evidenced by several “tells”. You wonder if even the most myopic and greedy stage parents would have let their child take a part in it. Sam tells Nick, and in order to protect Sam, the two of them burn the house down, and then go on the run. I am surprised that in viewing the other reviews made by viewers of this movie none of them seemed to put together that this is based, albeit loosely, on a REAL event. – going into the cave But that isn’t what happened at all. The Strange Ones is a strange film, it tells the story of a man and a boy travelling across country and the secrets they hold. I like atmospheric. This is a result of his counseling sessions with Gary; (4) while driving with Nick (a fantasy), Sam tries to explain that he is having visions, not dreams and I believe this is actually being revealed to Gary in one of their sessions; (5) the visit to the cave and being killed by a car is Sam’s way of finally controlling his thoughts and the last steps in his counseling which means he has recovered. As they break down, Sam becomes more fragile. The last box office update predicted that Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings would take in around $60 . Maybe the mantra of the movie is exactly how Nick made it through life after his experiences with his own father and that’s why it’s passed on to Sam. It was so good to see Alex Pettyfer trying something different in his career! I just don’t know if I can support a movie that has children abused so horrifically like that I guess. Camp = heaven/enlightenment). Discussion on what happened in The Strange Ones (spoilers) spoiler. And he's not the ONLY one… Your Major Spoilers review of Doctor Strange And The Sorcerers Supreme #1 awaits! Watch Forhoret – Face to Face Outside of Denmark? What Strange Paradise is the story of two children finding their way through a hostile world. But it is also a story of empathy and indifference, of hope and despair—and about the way each of those things can blind us to reality. I feel that Nick slapped Sam that day, because Sam was off. And throughout, there are little stylistic touches, like the very . “Cabin Fever” drives his mind to different extremes. What is the true nature of Sam and Nick’s relationship ? I came out of the cave, I had changed. He changed his memories to handle the murder of his father with an imaginary friend or split personality. And when Robert is at work, Sam stays with the next door neighbor, Nick. This is especially true during the conversation Sam has with Kelly (he is really talking about himself, not Nick). I mean all If you have not yet watched it, proceed at your own risk!. When the film ends with Sam walking into the cave that Nick said he spent a night in and came out a new man, we are seeing Sam rewind in his mind and start a new recording over of his past to restart a new life of his psyche. Sam takes it literally and kills his father. 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